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From: stephen@bokonon.UUCP (Stephen M. Dunn)
Subject: Re: Improved modem dialing for C-Kermit
Organization: United System Solutions Inc.
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 03:39:40 GMT
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In article <3sft9o$8ul@Mars.mcs.com> les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
$Why not teach it to read uucp Devices and Dialers files on the unix
$version at least? Everyone has to set these up anyway and it's
$annoying to have to do it all over again for kermit and add a
$start up script that knows how to find a free modem line.
You'd be surprised, actually, at how many people _don't_ set
these up, and go through life expecting that the modem will just
work optimally without any setup if it's used only for dial-in.
I've seen more than one >9600 bps modem used as a 9600-only
modem because someone didn't know that you could set up the OS
to do better, noticed in the manual that the modem defaults to
9600 bps DTE rate when powered on, and just left it like that.
I've also seen a 9600 bps modem configured to use a hayes2400
dialer, again due to lack of knowledge on the part of the person
who set it up.
As for dial-out, I think C-Kermit probably needs more information
than just "how UUCP or cu dials out" and "how to reset the modem
for dialin". For example, of all the stuff it finds, how does it
know which bits enable or disable error control, data compression,
how flow control is set, etc.?
Throw in the fact that there isn't just one standard format
for these (I believe pre-HDB UUCP used a different format; I've
never used Taylor UUCP so I can't say if it does or not) and it
gets more difficult to fish this stuff out. And some UUCP
packages allow for an undialer to reset the modem after a
call; others assume the modem can do this on its own. In some
cases, even if a system allows an undialer, it may not be used
(for example, this system doesn't use one, as it places all calls
and never accepts any), so if there was something you needed in
that entry, you might never be able to find it.
--
stephen@bokonon.UUCP ...!{xrtll,gts.org}!bokonon!stephen
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Stephen M. Dunn, CNE, ACE, Sr. Systems Analyst, United System Solutions Inc.
104 Carnforth Road, Toronto, ON, Canada M4A 2K7 (416) 750-7946 x251